New Data on the 8th Week's Top Ten

We have already analyzed results of the top ten based on normalized trades. For this purpose we recalculated all profits and losses got by the top ten Expert Advisors during the third week of the Championship, as if all trades had been opened with the volume of 0.1 lots. We obtained normalized values of the profit, drawdown and profit factor. We decided to recalculate results of the eighth week the same way.

Account Login Trades ExpectedPayOff, $ Profit (fixed), $ mini-Equity, $ Symbol Balance
600260 Gorez 36 317.93 11445.47 21445.47 GBPJPY 21445.47
600457 pacohernandezq 62 50.01 3100.46 13100.46 GBPUSD 13100.46
600486 PrizmaL 1000 3.01 3010.86 13010.86 EURGBP 13010.86
600011 abeiks 486 5.25 2552.62 12528.63 EURGBP 12552.62
600125 Cronex 131 18.27 2393.30 12461.96 EURUSD 12393.30
600592 strelec 703 3.45 2426.98 12426.98 EURGBP 12426.98
600211 fireflies 34 59.19 2012.33 12012.33 GBPJPY 12012.33
600349 Liliput 14 135.84 1901.72 11901.90 USDJPY 11901.72
600046 amelabs 15 92.08 1381.13 11381.13 GBPJPY 11381.13
600612 thezen 26 59.08 1535.96 11291.84 EURUSD 11535.96

As 5 weeks ago, the leader is still the Expert Advisor of the Participant Gorez. And he is far ahead of other Participants. But this time we wanted to have not only the snapshot of the top ten Participants, but also see their trading character in dynamics. For this purpose we have constructed mini-equity charts of normalized trades like those displayed on the first page of the Championship.

All charts represent mini-equity of Participants by trading days. This is how the first page of the Championship would look like if trading were performed by the fixed volume of 0.1 lots. In such a case the advantage of Gorez is evident practically from the first days of the Championship. By the end of the first month his mini-equity reaches its peak. As we remember this was the time of the strongest trend for all currency pairs.

During the second month the mini-equity of his account does not change greatly, the EA opens only short positions on GBPJPY. However, as the fall of JPY pairs has stopped, it is now much more difficult for it to make money.

To analyze mini-equities of other top ten Participants we had to make a separate chart displaying the dynamics of EAs' trading activity.

Now we can see that the Participant Cronex also had the most favorable period during the first month. But the second month brought him small losses in trading 0.1 lots, so the mini-equity of his virtual account would have diminished till $11,960. The fall would have been not more than 10% of the maximal sum equal to $13,160. But we remind you this would have been if trading 0.1 lots. In reality the Expert Advisor of the Participant Cronex had much larger losses and its maximal drawdown was more than 60%.


Fig. 1. Balance chart of Cronex.

Another Participant with an interesting mini-equity chart whom we saw already on the first weeks of the Championship was Liliput. He also traded very well in October, but November was not so successful in terms of trading for him.


Fig. 2. Balance chart Liliput.

It can be supposed that Expert Advisors of three Participants described above (Gorez, Cronex and Liliput) are trend-following EAs or at least they fill better in a trend. We can also mention the Expert Advisor of amelabs that showed very good results during the first weeks of the Championship and voluntary finished its participation on the third week.

One more interesting mini-equity chart is that of pacohernandezg. Like a real equity chart this one also has a step-type form. Though, his contesting account has much deeper steps.


Fig. 3. Balance chart of pacohernandezg.

A separate group is constructed by Participants PrizmaL, strelec and abeiks who trade EURGBP and compete with each other in the smoothness of their equity charts. Prizmal is on the first place of the top ten and has the jaggiest chart of mini-equity.


Fig. 4. Balance chart of PrizmaL.

And the last Participant analyzed is fireflies from Indonesia. If compare the Equity of his contesting account and his mini-equity, the chart of normalized trades has the "advantage of smoothness".


Fig. 5. Balance chart of fireflies.

The conclusion that can be made is that large trade volumes lead to large risks. Despite that many of analyzed Participants use various mechanisms of managing positions opened, the stability of results does not become better.

But of course none of the Participants traded the minimal volume of 0.1 lots, many of them used the maximally possible volume of 5 lots when opening positions. That allowed considerably increasing the profit of trading operations. Let's call the ratio between a real Participant's equity and his mini equity the "leverage effect" and construct a table using the following formula:

Leverage Effect = Equity/mini-Equity

Account Login Equity mini-Equity, $ Leverage Effect
600486 PrizmaL 132 233.37 13 010.86 10.16
600011 abeiks 122 055.06 12 528.63 9.74
600592 strelec 118 653.14 12 426.98 9.55
600349 Liliput 92 923.87 11 901.90 7.81
600457 pacohernandezq 95 949.02 13 100.46 7.32
600612 thezen 74 592.00 11 291.84 6.61
600125 Cronex 75 799.27 12 461.96 6.08
600260 Gorez 124 454.70 21 445.47 5.80
600046 amelabs 61 922.24 11 381.13 5.44
600211 fireflies 63 097.75 12 012.33 5.25

The conclusion that can be made from this table is evident: strategies trading by trend and making money in medium-term intervals have a lower leverage effect than those trading small targets and holding trades during a very short period of time.

A contradiction occurs. In order to trade small targets, positions with a large volume should be opened for a very short period of time. And it is often impossible to find such conditions for trading. In this respect strategies with larger period of position holding are more preferable.

Created: 2008.11.28  Author: Rosh
Reporting the 8th Week (17-23 November)

It is the first time for the last two weeks that we see a new leader of the Championship.

Jury Session Record of the 1st of December 2008

Not only Participants were the subject of Jury discussion on this session.

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robotalfa wrote:

I suggest there is a fundamental flaw in the maximum of 3 simultaneously opened orders rule. I believe that I made a recommendation in one of my comments somewhere, to Metaquotes, that this rule should be changed in future championships. The primary reason is evident in this analysis of the behavior from the experts of this contestants. All experts here are obviously designed to make it big or die a sudden death. If you don't believe it, just look at the general statistics of all experts in the contest. What's the actual winners to losers ratio? ...I believe that as long as this rule remains unchanged this is all we'll see in these championships ...Yes, these experts at the top are making lots of money, nobody denies that. But, the real question should be: is this a sustainable trading style in the real world? ...are you willing to stomach such crazy DDs?

Metaquotes should take a closer look at this rule and change it or remove it altogether. Personally, I don't see the reason for its existence other than encouraging bad trading practices --Really! --Let's analyze the situation objectively. I say, what's the difference between having 'ten 0.1 mini-lot orders opened' as opposed to having 'one 1.0 full-lot order opened'. At a birds eye view, and after some math, you can say that there are only two 1.0 orders opened. However, trading 'ten 0.1 mini-lot orders' is certainly not the same as trading 'one 1.0 lot order'. Some may argue that allowing more than 3 orders to be opened by each expert will tax the server to the brink of collapse then I will say that with the speed of modern CPUs this argument will fall apart and doesn't hold any merit. Besides, allowing for a more realistic scenario will benefit the reputation of Metaquotes and our own reputation as programmers of "real trading systems' for real trading accounts.

I agree, the kind of trading of a lot of EAs in this contest is too risky.

Another point to break this rulette style of trading would be to compare different indicator, not only final balance, to see who is the best, or at least to have two categories:

Best balance and the smoothest equity (smallest DD)

In fact small DD is much more interesting for me as big wins, but depends on personal preferences.

2008.12.01 09:45
fireflies wrote:
Thank you for commenting fireflies, a new comer to the top ten. Just a correction, I am from Indonesia, not the neighboring country Malaysia. :)

Sorry. Corrected.

2008.11.29 15:10
robotalfa wrote:

The primary reason is evident in this analysis of the behavior from the experts of this contestants. All experts here are obviously designed to make it big or die a sudden death.

Simply reducing the leverage enforced from 1:100, to something like 1:10 or 1:5 would definitely reduce this behavior. The equity will grow much much slower and very view experts will be stopped out.

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2008.11.29 14:37

I suggest there is a fundamental flaw in the maximum of 3 simultaneously opened orders rule. I believe that I made a recommendation in one of my comments somewhere, to Metaquotes, that this rule should be changed in future championships. The primary reason is evident in this analysis of the behavior from the experts of this contestants. All experts here are obviously designed to make it big or die a sudden death. If you don't believe it, just look at the general statistics of all experts in the contest. What's the actual winners to losers ratio? ...I believe that as long as this rule remains unchanged this is all we'll see in these championships ...Yes, these experts at the top are making lots of money, nobody denies that. But, the real question should be: is this a sustainable trading style in the real world? ...are you willing to stomach such crazy DDs?

Metaquotes should take a closer look at this rule and change it or remove it altogether. Personally, I don't see the reason for its existence other than encouraging bad trading practices --Really! --Let's analyze the situation objectively. I say, what's the difference between having 'ten 0.1 mini-lot orders opened' as opposed to having 'one 1.0 full-lot order opened'. At a birds eye view, and after some math, you can say that there are only two 1.0 orders opened. However, trading 'ten 0.1 mini-lot orders' is certainly not the same as trading 'one 1.0 lot order'. Some may argue that allowing more than 3 orders to be opened by each expert will tax the server to the brink of collapse then I will say that with the speed of modern CPUs this argument will fall apart and doesn't hold any merit. Besides, allowing for a more realistic scenario will benefit the reputation of Metaquotes and our own reputation as programmers of "real trading systems' for real trading accounts.
2008.11.29 08:36
Thank you for commenting fireflies, a new comer to the top ten. Just a correction, I am from Indonesia, not the neighboring country Malaysia. :)
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2008.11.29 03:05

Prizmal's Trade History

2008.11.28 23:23
Personally, I'd like to see many more EA's included in this type of analysis ... for example to top 100 or all profitable EA's or even the entire championship run on normalised results. This would put the EA's on equal footing and really be able to sort out the risky ones from the one makeing money consistantly (or at least for the duration of the championship)
2008.11.28 17:35
It seems that only 2 from all 10 EAs are trading fixed lots, hence this "analysis" is pointless.
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2008.11.28 15:58